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  • Deleted user 2 June 2007 15:50:44
    So there I was, all excited to be about to use a Smart FIlter for the first time but it seems my preferred method of sharpening (convert to Lab mode, sharpen on the Lightness channel, convert back to RGB) prohibits the use of Smart Filters.

    Bugger? Or is there a solution? I'm waiting for the various handy books on CS3 to come out as they're vastly preferable to the useless manuals that come with CS3.
  • Deleted user 2 June 2007 16:00:32
    CrispyXUK wrote:
    Erm, smart filter? Whats that then?
    When you use a filter but it keeps it as an editable parameter much like an adjustment layer.

    I'm having some major problems using my old CS2 actions - a whole bunch of little things seem to have been changed that has fucked up a lot of my actions. For example, I have a 'vignetting' action:

    - create a 1 pixel border
    - invert it
    - contract it by about 25 pixels
    - invert it again (so there's a selection 'frame' of 25 pixels around the inner edge of the image)
    - Feather it by 100-250 pixels
    - then fill it in with black on a new layer, set to overlay.

    This has worked no problem whatsoever since CS1. However, CS3 won't let me do the Feather stage. It says that no pixels are more than 50% selected so the selection edges will not be visible.

    WTF?
  • Deleted user 2 June 2007 16:24:25
    Well the jury's out on the Smart Filters, but what's going on with that Feathering problem? I can't rebuild that action if feathering at 250 won't work like that in CS3 but it did in CS2. Really pissed off right now.
  • otto Moderator 2 Jun 2007 16:31:00 49,322 posts
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    Owen-B wrote:
    So there I was, all excited to be about to use a Smart FIlter for the first time but it seems my preferred method of sharpening (convert to Lab mode, sharpen on the Lightness channel, convert back to RGB) prohibits the use of Smart Filters.
    Isn't that exactly what 'Smart Sharpen' does? I haven't bothered with your method since CS2.

    edit - oh, and I was able to import all my CS2 actions into CS3, I haven't detected any problems. Mind you I was using the beta - I've switched back to CS2 now. :)

    Edited by otto at 16:32:03 02-06-2007
  • Deleted user 2 June 2007 16:32:38
    otto wrote:
    Owen-B wrote:
    So there I was, all excited to be about to use a Smart FIlter for the first time but it seems my preferred method of sharpening (convert to Lab mode, sharpen on the Lightness channel, convert back to RGB) prohibits the use of Smart Filters.
    Isn't that exactly what 'Smart Sharpen' does? I haven't bothered with your method since CS2.
    Is it?

    I never really understood what the benefits of Smart Sharpen were. I used it in conjunction with the Lab method. Thanks for the advice. :)


    Answered my own question about feathering, too - use the new Refine Edges tool. Probably not what it's meant for, but works where Feather doesn't. :)
  • Deleted user 2 June 2007 16:34:02
    otto wrote:
    Owen-B wrote:
    So there I was, all excited to be about to use a Smart FIlter for the first time but it seems my preferred method of sharpening (convert to Lab mode, sharpen on the Lightness channel, convert back to RGB) prohibits the use of Smart Filters.
    Isn't that exactly what 'Smart Sharpen' does? I haven't bothered with your method since CS2.

    edit - oh, and I was able to import all my CS2 actions into CS3, I haven't detected any problems. Mind you I was using the beta - I've switched back to CS2 now. :)
    CS3 automatically finds your actions from CS2 and updates it's Actions Pallet to match. :) No problems there but clearly some things under the bonnet are working differently and cause issues.
  • otto Moderator 2 Jun 2007 16:34:51 49,322 posts
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    Well double check about smart sharpen, I did read that somewhere once but it's probably worth double checking exactly how smart sharpen works before trusting me completely. :)

    Oh, and with the beta I had to locate my actions manually and import them.

    Edited by otto at 16:36:08 02-06-2007
  • Deleted user 2 June 2007 17:13:56
    otto wrote:
    Well double check about smart sharpen, I did read that somewhere once but it's probably worth double checking exactly how smart sharpen works before trusting me completely. :)

    Oh, and with the beta I had to locate my actions manually and import them.

    Edited by otto at 16:36:08 02-06-2007
    I hated the beta. Nasty piece of shit that fucked up a whole load of things on my computer. Guess that's why it was a beta! ;)

    The official product does it automatically.
  • wopr-lower-case 4 Jun 2007 10:23:43 2,198 posts
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    Heh, my free CS3 upgrade has arrived and it has PS Extended and Flash CS3 in it too, wasn't expecting that :)
  • Deleted user 4 June 2007 10:28:24
    Owen-B wrote:
    It says that no pixels are more than 50% selected so the selection edges will not be visible.

    WTF?

    Y'know this isn't actually a problem per se, because the selection is still there ready to be filled, just Photoshop hasn't drawn a line of ants crawling around it. Can't you suppress error messages in your action or something? (Can't quite remember)
  • wopr-lower-case 4 Jun 2007 19:07:31 2,198 posts
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    I fucking hate Adobe's new installers. I'm trying to install CS3 at home (I can do this according to the license agreement) and I have the same previous versions installed at home, but CS3 won't install because it says I'm not eligible. Fucktards.
  • wopr-lower-case 26 Jun 2007 12:47:40 2,198 posts
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    Grrr, just noticed that several of the key features of ImageReady haven't been taken over into PS CS3. Idiots!

    /unzips CS2
  • Lukus 26 Jun 2007 12:52:08 24,640 posts
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    So what's the intial verdict on CS3? It seems a bit mixed, but mostly a bit annoying? Do you think it'll come good after a bit of getting used to?
  • pjmaybe 26 Jun 2007 12:53:52 70,666 posts
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    Lukus wrote:
    So what's the intial verdict on CS3? It seems a bit mixed, but mostly a bit annoying? Do you think it'll come good after a bit of getting used to?

    I rather like it. It's utterly and completely frustrating for me when I'm drawing anything with vectors etc, as they still haven't brought over any of the neater stuff from the likes of Illustrator (you still can't fucking well join two node points together in PS, how stupid is that!)

    All in all, it's good but could've been better.

    Peej
  • Spanky 26 Jun 2007 12:54:23 15,037 posts
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    wopr-lower-case wrote:
    Grrr, just noticed that several of the key features of ImageReady haven't been taken over into PS CS3. Idiots!

    /unzips CS2
    Yup it's dropped completely and i have no time at all to relearn fireworks since dumping it at V1...

    Simple gif animated banners were a fucking breeze in imageready... :C
  • Deleted user 26 June 2007 13:07:16
    Fuck Fireworks :( I hate the ass out of that shit.
  • MrWorf 26 Jun 2007 13:10:21 64,193 posts
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    How do I select inverse using the keyboard only?
  • wopr-lower-case 26 Jun 2007 13:15:21 2,198 posts
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    Spanky wrote:
    wopr-lower-case wrote:
    Grrr, just noticed that several of the key features of ImageReady haven't been taken over into PS CS3. Idiots!

    /unzips CS2
    Yup it's dropped completely and i have no time at all to relearn fireworks since dumping it at V1...

    Simple gif animated banners were a fucking breeze in imageready... :C
    I was try to make a droplet to convert some images to the same format, which you can no longer do without making an Action or some such shite. Can't animated gifs or rollovers any more either! RETARDS!
  • billythekid 26 Jun 2007 13:18:06 12,595 posts
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    CrispyXUK wrote:
    Apple + I

    Apple + Shift + I surely?
    Apple + I is for inverting the colours, unless they've changed it.
  • Deleted user 26 June 2007 13:25:45
    CrispyXUK wrote:
    whatever.

    oooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooo!

    Also, Razz, you can find out keyboard shortcuts by looking at the command in the menus - the shortcut is shown next to it.
  • Neverness 26 Jun 2007 13:46:46 1,186 posts
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    Overall I prefer CS3 to 2. It seems much faster, especially bridge which I now actually use. The ability to edit jpegs with Adobe RAW is great and removes any vauge interest in Lightroom I had before (this may have been in CS2 but I never used it).

    Having said that is anyone else finding PS CS3 really unstable? I have had numerous crashes this morning, all of which reset any menu customisation.
  • MrWorf 26 Jun 2007 13:49:20 64,193 posts
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    CrispyXUK wrote:
    Apple + I
    Sorry I mean for a Windows PC.

    I actually looked for the apple key for a second too :D
  • Neverness 26 Jun 2007 13:55:45 1,186 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    CrispyXUK wrote:
    Apple + I
    Sorry I mean for a Windows PC.

    I actually looked for the apple key for a second too :D

    shift+ctrl+I
  • MrWorf 26 Jun 2007 13:58:48 64,193 posts
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    Cheers! Just wanted to clarify. I thought it was that but for some reason it's not working. :/ Blah. I'll have to keep using the drop down menu.

    Cheers mate.
  • Deleted user 26 June 2007 14:22:08
    I love that Photoshop still can't remember where it was saving and loading files from on mounted SMB shares. Makes my working life a nightmare. Especially when I absent mindedly go to open a file and click the file location dropdown; insta-crash alert! Works every time :(
  • Deleted user 26 June 2007 14:22:08
    I love that Photoshop still can't remember where it was saving and loading files from on mounted SMB shares. Makes my working life a nightmare. Especially when I absent mindedly go to open a file and click the file location dropdown; insta-crash alert! Works every time :(
  • wopr-lower-case 8 Jul 2007 11:12:21 2,198 posts
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    I never use any haxies or anything like that, it's asking for trouble. If you log in as a different user does the problem continue?
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