Apple photobooks - any good? Page 2

  • Dr-Strangelove 12 Jun 2007 15:14:18 2,309 posts
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    I've had a few done.

    They are bloody lovely and you would not believe how well these go down as gifts. Family/parents etc who are not net/PC savvy think that you're some sort of publishing demigod. (they already think I'm the next Peter Jackson due to my iMovie and iDVD efforts, which demonstrates my point more than my own ability tbh). Fortunately I don't use Garageband.

    My other half loves them as I create one for her when she's least expecting it. She loves it when one pops out in the post. I've mainly created books for previous holidays and other intimate moments, a few random ones are always nice. I did a bumper one for our round the world travels as well as a review of places that we've been together over a year (a sort of "Holidays 2006"). It's like I'm building up a photographic anthology of what we've done together.

    I've yet to do my first porn book though.

    /photos willy

    /deletes

    Edited by Dr Strangelove at 15:41:23 12-06-2007
  • otto Moderator 7 Aug 2007 20:19:59 49,322 posts
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    Back here to bump with a mea culpa, I just had another photo book done via iPhoto, the first I've had done in a couple of years, and the quality has improved MASSIVELY. I am very, very impressed. I had a 40-page hardback made, I'd been tweaking my photos as I went so I ordered it from the airport on the way home last Wednesday and it arrived today, less than a week later. It really is stunning, I'm so pleased with it. I just wish I'd gone with more of the full page shots. :)

    (One minor gripe, iPhoto crops 2:3 ratio photos automatically to 4:3 which is annoying especially as it doesn't let you adjust the crop - unless you go back and edit the photo yourself. Minor grievance.)
  • Deleted user 7 August 2007 21:38:00
    Plus one! I got one of these made up for minky for our fourth year last month, and we were so happy with the final results. Even the really cruddy low resolution mobile pics that I put in there came out okay! New books in iPhoto '08 apparently.

    Edit: New books
  • dgb 7 Aug 2007 21:40:09 657 posts
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    I like the sound of these photobooks and they look really good quality.

    It would be nice to have one of our recent holiday.

    I already use Picassa on my PC. Is downloading iPhotos asking for trouble? would it cause me any software conflict problems or anything?

    Advice appreciated.
  • Deleted user 7 August 2007 21:42:27
    You can't get iPhoto for your PC mate. However, there are other services out there; a quick search reveals Tabblo for example, which you can use with Picasa as far as I can see.
  • Deleted user 7 August 2007 21:47:01
    Or Photobox.co.uk
  • dgb 7 Aug 2007 21:47:08 657 posts
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    Thanks.

    I'll download it and give it a go.
  • otto Moderator 7 Aug 2007 21:51:42 49,322 posts
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    mouse wrote:
    Edit: New books
    Love the look of the Folio hardback, that's what I'll go with for my big Canada retrospective when I leave next year. :)
  • wopr-lower-case 7 Aug 2007 21:59:18 2,198 posts
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    Fuck, that folio looks amazing. I must get one of these done, soon.
  • otto Moderator 7 Aug 2007 22:19:19 49,322 posts
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    Heh, I have exactly the same shot as that one in the example Folio book, taken from the bridge looking towards the very picturesque and brilliantly named town of Ptuj in Slovenia. :)
  • Deleted user 4 September 2007 18:28:52
    Just ordered a 32 page large softcover book using the basic template but made to mimic the folio design - I didn't like the way you couldn't centre single portrait style images in the folio template, and I'm not using captions so I have no need of the space for them at the side.

    9-13 business days, it reckoned, so see you back here in 2 weeks!
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 14:50:02
    It's shit.

    The pages inside are fine, look lovely, etc, but the covers? Oh my God, they're appalling. They feel chalky and thin, they're streaky, they're not black or dark where they should be, and after only 12 hours out of the box it arrived in, and flipped through only once, it's curling up really badly.

    WTF?
  • [maven] 25 Sep 2007 14:53:01 5,799 posts
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    I have to agree that that looks a bit rubbish.

    Thank god I don't "get" photos. ;)
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 14:56:36
    [maven] wrote:
    I have to agree that that looks a bit rubbish.

    Thank god I don't "get" photos. ;)
    You don't 'get' them?
  • otto Moderator 25 Sep 2007 14:56:50 49,322 posts
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    :o

    Why didn't you get hardback???

    My hardbacks are a thing of beauty - linen-covered, with a really nice photo pasted to the front - really professional looking.

    edit - looking at all your photos, that's just wrong. Send it back. It should NOT look like that. I've had softback ones done too and they did not look like that.
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 14:58:20
    otto wrote:
    :o

    Why didn't you get hardback???

    My hardbacks are a thing of beauty - linen-covered, with a really nice photo pasted to the front - really professional looking.
    Well I obviously will be from now on, although Apple don't do the 'linen-covered with a photo glued on' covers anymore - it's paper slipcovers now.
  • deem 25 Sep 2007 15:01:22 31,667 posts
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    TBH, you couldn't expect a rich black from a Digital print.

    Single colours will never be solid, you will always have a certain amount of banding - black being the biggest culprit, especially on thicker stock such as covers.
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 15:05:36
    deem wrote:
    TBH, you couldn't expect a rich black from a Digital print.

    Single colours will never be solid, you will always have a certain amount of banding - black being the biggest culprit, especially on thicker stock such as covers.
    It's not on the print itself, it's the template of the book - the back cover is almost entirely black in the template - it's not that it isn't entirely black, it's that it's practically charcoal and covered in nasty streaks. Plus the curling, which is appalling.

    Feels really cheap and nasty. Actual cost = £25!!!
  • deem 25 Sep 2007 15:07:20 31,667 posts
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    Owen-B wrote:
    deem wrote:
    TBH, you couldn't expect a rich black from a Digital print.

    Single colours will never be solid, you will always have a certain amount of banding - black being the biggest culprit, especially on thicker stock such as covers.
    It's not on the print itself, it's the template of the book - the back cover is almost entirely black in the template - it's not that it isn't entirely black, it's that it's practically charcoal and covered in nasty streaks. Plus the curling, which is appalling.

    Feels really cheap and nasty. Actual cost = £25!!!

    I know, but nothing you've said changes the fact that you won't get a rich solid black from a laser print.

    It's the same tech as a colour photocopy.
  • Machiavel 25 Sep 2007 15:07:39 5,964 posts
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    I found the one hardbook I ordered of reasonable quality, but the packaging price exorbitant!
  • Phreedh 25 Sep 2007 15:09:34 675 posts
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    I had a hard cover done and I've got pretty much zero complaints apart from the price and my stinginess with pages. 22 pages (I think) made the book look a bit thin and lame.

    Also, I got the linen cover. No dustcover here. Ordered and received this month, but not using iLife'08... don't know why there would be a difference though.

    Was going to order a mid sized softcover of some 50-odd pages though I'm not sure now when I've seen Owen's book...

    I gotta say, the price is stiff... hard bound with 54 pages would be something like €80. Maybe I'm just cheap, don't really know what it would cost at another printer's.
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 15:12:07
    Phreedh wrote:
    I had a hard cover done and I've got pretty much zero complaints apart from the price and my stinginess with pages. 22 pages (I think) made the book look a bit thin and lame.

    Also, I got the linen cover. No dustcover here. Ordered and received this month, but not using iLife'08... don't know why there would be a difference though.

    Was going to order a mid sized softcover of some 50-odd pages though I'm not sure now when I've seen Owen's book...

    I gotta say, the price is stiff... hard bound with 54 pages would be something like €80. Maybe I'm just cheap, don't really know what it would cost at another printer's.
    It's because the dustcover themes are only in iPhoto '08 I think. If you order a different theme from a different version, that's what you get.

    deem, I appreciate what you're saying is a fact, but ti also doesn't change the fact that at no point do Apple say - "It'll look like shit, by the way." and consumers like me that don't have experience in printing wouldn't be expected to know that.
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 15:12:49
    WOPR wrote:
    Well my £26 hardbook should be with me this week so I'll let you know how it comes out.

    /gulps
    I'm sure it'll be fine as the pages inside are gorgeous. It's just the thin cheap card they use in these soft ones is appalling.
  • Machiavel 25 Sep 2007 15:13:39 5,964 posts
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    Oh, and what got me was, order two books and the packaging doubles, three and it triples - a strange bizarro world of exponential packaging.
  • Phreedh 25 Sep 2007 15:13:47 675 posts
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    deem wrote:
    I know, but nothing you've said changes the fact that you won't get a rich solid black from a laser print.

    It's the same tech as a colour photocopy.
    I'd be fucking disappointed too if my book looked like that. As a matter of fact, I'd expect the cover to be solid black and possibly have my printed cover picture pasted on, like with the hard bound books.

    If it's going to be as streaky as that, it should be just as streaky in the template if it's such a known fact as you claim.
  • otto Moderator 25 Sep 2007 15:13:48 49,322 posts
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    I repeat, it should not look like that, send it back. I've had several photobooks done, soft and hard cover, and none of them look remotely like that. Send it back.
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 15:17:12
    otto wrote:
    I repeat, it should not look like that, send it back. I've had several photobooks done, soft and hard cover, and none of them look remotely like that. Send it back.
    The email is in at the Apple Photobook service page.
  • [maven] 25 Sep 2007 15:33:55 5,799 posts
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    Owen-B wrote:
    [maven] wrote:
    Thank god I don't "get" photos. ;)
    You don't 'get' them?

    I don't see the point (of photos). Well, I kind of see the point, but don't subscribe to its newsletter.
  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife 25 Sep 2007 15:50:02 7,087 posts
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    [maven] wrote:
    Owen-B wrote:
    [maven] wrote:
    Thank god I don't "get" photos. ;)
    You don't 'get' them?

    I don't see the point (of photos). Well, I kind of see the point, but don't subscribe to its newsletter.

    O_o

    Do you mean as a memory capture device or as an artistic medium or as an illustrative tool?
  • Deleted user 25 September 2007 15:51:21
    [maven] wrote:
    Owen-B wrote:
    [maven] wrote:
    Thank god I don't "get" photos. ;)
    You don't 'get' them?

    I don't see the point (of photos). Well, I kind of see the point, but don't subscribe to its newsletter.
    That's a real shame. Have you never found a packet of old photos from a party/birthday/day out/Christmas/etc from years ago and ored over them ooh-ing at how thin and gorgeous you looked back then, or aaah-ing at just how much fun it was hanging out at such and such a place with so and so?
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