Exercise advice and weight loss Page 494

  • Dungeonbash 25 Nov 2018 11:23:53 63 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Because it's only advantageous in the short term (basically whilst your body is losing water, not fat). Plus it's shit for anyone that's doing any sort of high intensity exercise as fat just flat out can't provide the energy you need at those heart rates.

    If it works for you, great. Statistically it's less likely to be adhered to (which isn't surprising, as carbs are fucking delicious)... but if you can do it, that's great.

    Edit - Not a fad though. Just overhyped, a LOT.
    None of this is actually true; you're just parroting the claims made by other people who don't like or understand it. There are plenty of people who do intense exercise using fat. Just as there are plenty of people who lose weight doing it. Way more than just water weight.

    Sure any diet that's different to the norm can be difficult to stick to precisely that reason. That speaks nothing to the diet itself, but to the culture we live in. A culture with a considerable and rising health crisis.
  • AddyJB 25 Nov 2018 11:29:49 545 posts
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    Don't argue with this guy folks. His last reg started wishing death on people.
  • Psychotext 25 Nov 2018 11:38:26 64,192 posts
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    None of it's true, except for the bits that are actually backed up with scientific studies. It's cool though, we'll go with bro-science instead.
  • Dungeonbash 25 Nov 2018 12:00:16 63 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    None of it's true, except for the bits that are actually backed up with scientific studies. It's cool though, we'll go with bro-science instead.
    I agree. I have no idea what bro science is though. There's science and there's not, and sometimes science, as in the case of the diet heart hypothesis, gets it wrong.
  • JamboWayOh 25 Nov 2018 12:01:56 10,297 posts
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    Sometimes life....finds a way.
  • Psychotext 25 Nov 2018 12:05:42 64,192 posts
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    Clever girl(s).
  • GoatApocalypse 25 Nov 2018 12:10:34 4,941 posts
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    Not-a-reviewer wrote:
    I'm eating steak and roast dinners every day from now on.
    No spuds
  • IJ 25 Nov 2018 19:52:19 958 posts
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    Best exercise tracking app?

    Iíve got and previously used Full Fitness but going back to it after a few years now and it seems clunky and awkward.

    Starting with just treadmill but planning to move onto free weights once I buy some for my home gym.

    So one which does reps within sets nicely and counts down rests between sets etc would be good.
  • Zomoniac 25 Nov 2018 20:37:59 9,846 posts
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    @IJ Strong is my favourite to use. Only downside is itís a bit pricey (£30 a year, though in the scheme of gym and fitness stuff itís not much if it helps you make progress). Itís pretty and simple but effective.

    I use that with Strava and MFP.
  • Derblington 25 Nov 2018 21:00:10 31,204 posts
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    I use Strong too.

    Ended up with a 6kg loss yesterday (3 weeks). Not sure how long it'll remain at this pace but it's been really easy and I've not noticed any negative affects so far.

    And other than a brownie that a friend baked for me on my birthday, I've not eaten any sweets, cakes or ice-cream now in that time. And I've not missed them at all. That's been a huge surprise. I thought about getting a small chocolate bar the other day and just didn't fancy it.
    I used to need something small and sweet after my dinner most nights, and that's a slippery slope, so I'm pretty happy that I've just lost it entirely.

    Edited by Derblington at 21:06:56 25-11-2018
  • fontgeeksogood 25 Nov 2018 21:58:07 3,752 posts
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    There's a guy, or possibly lady, who wrote a really interesting white paper on the connection of dopamine and sugar from a psychology perspective rather than physiological one. Explored why heroin junkies trying to go cold turkey seek out sweet things as part of that.

    Good to hear you got over the initial cravings. They don't really come back very much in my experience but you'll have something sugar laden at some point and if it's a long time since you will be shocked at how your body responds

    Edited by fontgeeksogood at 22:31:16 25-11-2018
  • Armoured_Bear 25 Nov 2018 22:17:45 24,977 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Almost 3 weeks into the new eating plan and I'm about 5kgs dropped.

    Going to increase my cardio effort a little bit throughout the week to see if I can nudge it a tiny bit further without sacrificing intensity in my lifts or impacting recovery.
    What's your eating plan?
  • Derblington 26 Nov 2018 14:57:26 31,204 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear

    I listed it about 3 posts under the one you've quoted :)

    Re. sugar cravings: I thought it would be really difficult but it's just non-existent. I do eat more fruit than I used to, so that'll go some way to explain it, but that's all much earlier in the day, around my workouts. Not needing or wanting anything in the evenings is a huge change.
    And I passed up a doughnut today at work!

    Ed: Apparently I posted it much earlier than the quoted post.
    I've worked out my calories to drop weight, and I'm cutting out the sugary/carby snacks.

    I train semi-fasted at lunch. I eat a couple of pieces of fruit before training, to ensure liver glycogen is optimal.
    After training I eat some more fruit and some protein to prevent catabolism (the protein is just to make it easier to consume my daily amount).
    I snack on whole food fats in the afternoon - nuts or peanut butter on rice cakes.
    And then I have the majority of my calories, and all starchy carbs (rice or potatoes), in the evening for dinner, a few hours before bed so that the digestion doesn't impact my sleep.

    Cheat meals one or two evenings (separated) a week.


    Edited by Derblington at 15:15:56 26-11-2018
  • fontgeeksogood 26 Nov 2018 17:16:43 3,752 posts
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    Heh, you aren't going to go into catabolism that quickly bruh
  • Derblington 26 Nov 2018 18:18:22 31,204 posts
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    No, I know, it'd takes a lot of hours into days to really be affected.
    But I need to eat after a workout, and I might as well give myself the best chance at holding onto as much muscle as possible considering I'm eating in a deficit and lifting heavy.

    Edited by Derblington at 18:18:36 26-11-2018
  • mrpon 28 Nov 2018 12:19:38 34,849 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    I've done zero traditional weight training this week, been giving my nervous system a break. I have, however, been doing a lot of grip training (stop giggling). It's something I don't do enough of, and it is a massive hindrance to my deadlift
    PES spotted.
  • Psychotext 28 Nov 2018 12:36:18 64,192 posts
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    My grip is fucking awful. Comes mostly of having tiny girly hands though. :(
  • the_milkybar_kid 28 Nov 2018 12:45:21 7,745 posts
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    Suicide grip ftw.
  • fontgeeksogood 28 Nov 2018 13:10:16 3,752 posts
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    I folded a frying pan yesterday. My wanking game is either going to be world class or potentially life threatening
  • askew 28 Nov 2018 13:17:50 18,021 posts
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    I like how the best way down involved getting higher.
  • The_Goon 28 Nov 2018 13:21:22 1,123 posts
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    @askew Apparently it was really windy and the pilot couldn't control the glider properly with the other guy hanging off which is why they took so long to get down.
  • selenarichard 28 Nov 2018 16:54:01 1 posts
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    I think the best way to loose weight is running for half an hour in the morning without eating your breakfast and also control your diet. I have loss 30 kg in a month going through a diet plan that my instructor has given me. Also I have bought a treadmill on this Black friday so that I keep cycling when ever I free at home. If you want a diet plan I can provide you.

    Edited by selenarichard at 16:55:51 28-11-2018
  • beastmaster 28 Nov 2018 18:13:02 18,818 posts
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    Just got back from the gym. I have a PT and even though I was utterly buggered by the end of it, we both said itís the best Iíve even done. Sheíll crank it up no doubt next time. Recovery times are right up.

    Weight is coming off. Met up with a few people Iíve not seen for a while and I got the ďYou look really wellĒ comments. Clothes are getting looser etc. Feels fucking great!

    Gym has now gone from being a chore to something I really look forward to.

    Edited by beastmaster at 18:13:27 28-11-2018

    Edited by beastmaster at 18:13:55 28-11-2018
  • THFourteen 28 Nov 2018 18:42:07 50,252 posts
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    I lost 30kg this month doing a big poo.
  • fontgeeksogood 28 Nov 2018 19:18:12 3,752 posts
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    I would like user beastmaster to review his gym visits on an ongoing basis
  • Psychotext 28 Nov 2018 19:39:49 64,192 posts
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    It's funny... I don't get the "you look great" comments. I get the "Are you dying of a terminal illness" comments.

    Stupid body.
  • AddyJB 28 Nov 2018 19:44:40 545 posts
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    I've had multiple comments recently about weight loss and I look well. I've only lost maybe 3 more lbs recently. Maybe it's just people being polite. Fuck it, I'll take it.
  • challenge_hanukkah 28 Nov 2018 19:50:18 8,847 posts
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    I'd do you.
  • fontgeeksogood 28 Nov 2018 19:51:57 3,752 posts
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    Take body measurements, rather than simply weighing yourself.

    Unless you're user psychotext, who needs to grow a beard due to his AIDS
  • beastmaster 28 Nov 2018 20:09:12 18,818 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    I would like user beastmaster to review his gym visits on an ongoing basis
    Dunno. What about a live feed? You could all watch me grunt and groan as I lift those 3kg weights above my head like the fucking mighty warrior I am!!!
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