| And that wasn't a dig at you Ryan, rather the ongoing debate whether what you eat actually matters when you're dieting as some seem to think it doesn't. (Spoilers, it does) |
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Decks 31,014 posts
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RyanDS 14,074 posts
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Registered 13 years agoDecks wrote:
I don’t feel shit, I feel good, but on paper I am way below what calories I should intake. I have no context and hence I asked the question.
Wayne wrote:
Bringing stuff to the table is your problem Wayne not mine.
Decks wrote:
Decks, there's people in here genuinely trying to better themselves, and looking for sincere useful advice. Bringing that attitude to the table doesn't help anyone.
This will blow your mind, but what you eat it really important when you're on a low calorie diet. Certain foods will fill you up and give you higher energy levels than others. Crazy I know.
And it is genuine advice. If you're struggling with energy levels cut out sugar, processed food and increase protein. As any nutritionist will tell you. Or listen to Derps and feel like shit all the time when you're trying to lose weight.
Apologies for that, I will step away from the tread if it annoys you so much. -
monkman76 18,987 posts
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Decks 31,014 posts
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Registered 6 years agoRyanDS wrote:
Again not a dig at you,I hadn't even read your post in all honesty. It was in response to Wayne saying he felt like shit and had no energy. If you go back a few pages you'll understand.
Decks wrote:
I don’t feel shit, I feel good, but on paper I am way below what calories I should intake. I have no context and hence I asked the question.
Wayne wrote:
Bringing stuff to the table is your problem Wayne not mine.
Decks wrote:
Decks, there's people in here genuinely trying to better themselves, and looking for sincere useful advice. Bringing that attitude to the table doesn't help anyone.
This will blow your mind, but what you eat it really important when you're on a low calorie diet. Certain foods will fill you up and give you higher energy levels than others. Crazy I know.
And it is genuine advice. If you're struggling with energy levels cut out sugar, processed food and increase protein. As any nutritionist will tell you. Or listen to Derps and feel like shit all the time when you're trying to lose weight.
Apologies for that, I will step away from the tread if it annoys you so much. -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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monkman76 18,987 posts
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Registered 13 years agoHow many calories do circular arguments burn? -
Rum_Monkey 3,488 posts
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Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYeah, I was the one that started this argument by being aggressive about food choice.
Ed: I also didn’t “feel like shit” when I just lost 13 kg but whatevs.
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Vortex808 15,598 posts
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Registered 13 years agomonkman76 wrote:
Depends on how angry you are when you type a reply.
How many calories do circular arguments burn?.gif)
More key mashing = MOAR calorie burn
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Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years ago7 day average now shows me at over 10kg lost since January. Bodyfat realistically somewhere around ~14% but it's hard to tell as I haven't really had much of a chance to build a lot of muscle since my accident / surgery.
Pretty happy with the progress, even if I do look like crap (I lose all my fat off my face first, so I make Skeletor look chubby). -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@RyanDS
You are eating very low cals, which isn't necessarily an issue in itself in the short term. I think around 25 cals per kg is considered low, which at 1200 cals would mean you are about 48kg total weight.
The problem with it long term (and it doesn't take *that* long to start) is that your body will adjust your metabolism down to eating at that range, basically to protect itself from starvation.
Added exercise will increase the rate at which that occurs as you're eating low and burning more energy and your body is trying to balance both.
As this occurs you'll stop losing weight, and then when you eat above 1200 you'll start to gain.
If you don't care about eating a lot in general you can afford to eat less than recommended, essentially forever, but it's not quite as simple as "I feel fine" in the long term. It's the part of weight loss/gain that makes it a bit more complicated than just "eat less/move more", and why so many dieters yo-yo. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years agoSigned up for Strava
Since most of the best looking routes around here are off road it was a bit awkward calculating distance on Google then using my phone’s stopwatch for the time.
Part of the reason why I ran the same route every time over the last few weeks. Straightforward 3.5miles on the dot along a route that wasn’t too taxing surface or elevation wise. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI don’t own any scales but mirrors and performance should tell me if I’m getting my legs back -
Psiloc 6,368 posts
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Registered 14 years agoRyanDS wrote:
I'm no expert but this diet looks like a bag of shit to me
Food wise I am actually finding it silly easy. Bought one of those tracking apps and they say I do maybe 600 calories a day exercise, with an aim to lose 1kg a week that means I need a deficit of 900 calories so should eat maybe 1800 calories. But I am on maybe 1000 and feel fine. Should I be upping that? I feel something is wrong when I am on a diet and am told I need to eat more. Current diet is:
Morning: Actimel, protein shake, piece of fruit, 2 black coffee. 110 odd calories. And a multivitamin
Lunch: protein shake 91 calories
Supper: a proper meal, between 550-700 calories.
One beer a day (big bottle of singha) 239
Total: maybe 1200, app says I should have an extra 600 but that is a whole supper again.
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Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI just can't imagine doing 1,000kcal a day (which is grim in of itself) and using a full quarter of that allocation for a beer.
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captbirdseye 11,190 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWhen is well into lifting I was eating about 6-7000 calories a day which was heavy going. Then I had a kid and my wife liked her bathroom clean. -
ryanclayton 124 posts
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Registered 10 years ago@ryands you are by definition, eating like a cunt. Fuck the beer off. Eat some actual food for lunch and breakfast. I’d question why you are on such low calories too? That can’t be sustainable, especially if you are training as well.
I’m 90kg looking to get down to 85kg and I’m on 2k a day and on track for my goal. I guess what I’m
Saying is what more food. -
Psiloc 6,368 posts
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Registered 14 years agoPsychotext wrote:
Plus a couple bottles of wine / 8 or so beers on the weekend.
I just can't imagine doing 1,000kcal a day (which is grim in of itself) and using a full quarter of that allocation for a beer.
What in the loving fuck.
User RyanDS I reckon you're getting way more calories from booze than you think you are. I'd recommend having some actual food for lunch and you're either not actually doing 600 calories per day of exercise or if you are, you need to turn that down because you're definitely going to burn muscle rather than fat.
You're simply asking to be "skinny fat" for a little while before rebounding, in my opinion. Eat some healthy food and drink less. That should be way higher priority than 600cals of cardio. This has got "crash diet" written all over it which by definition you will rebound from.
Best advice I ever heard was it's 80% nutrition, 15% resistance training and 5% cardio, in terms of importance. Bodybuilders might argue the toss over the exact numbers but the order is completely non-controversial. Think it through and you'll see you're fucking that right up. -
Wayne 4,057 posts
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Registered 15 years agoOrdered lunch today and they didn't have what my s/o ordered, so they sent us two packets of crisps and a Twix as an apology. The universe is plotting against me. Had to get her to hide them, for my will power is poor. -
RyanDS 14,074 posts
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Registered 13 years agoPsychotext wrote:
I am not aiming for 1200 odd, that is just what came up when I looked. I never snack, I don’t do soft drinks generally etc. I normally don’t each much anyway, I normally skip breakfast, have a sandwich for lunch and dinner. And these hello fresh meals I am getting now are low calorie... I genuinely don’t feel hungry or miserable on that.
I just can't imagine doing 1,000kcal a day (which is grim in of itself) and using a full quarter of that allocation for a beer.
What in the loving fuck.
So basically I need to add 500+ calories. Easy to do, and from what I gather I should do.
Edit. Also thanks everyone else for the other advice as well.
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General_Martok 2,490 posts
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Registered 5 years agoI just ate a packet of squares. I'm at 1000 calories for the day.
I fully intend to eat another 1000.
I R naughty.
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Psiloc 6,368 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@RyanDS If you're really doing 600kcals of cardio per day you should definitely redistribute the majority of that effort to weight lifting. And increase your calorie intake to include more protein to support muscle growth.
Cases like yourself are why the "calories in vs. calories out" advice can be too reductive. I'm assuming you've doubled down on this, and while that is all there is to it when it comes to losing weight, there's more to it if you want to actually be long term healthy and keep the weight off for more than five minutes. You're not going to be happy on 1,000 kcals forever -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI’m back on the wagon today. Snack intake has gotten too high again. And whilst I haven’t put on any (more) weight it needs to halt.
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Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoShitty diets aside, does anyone have any suggestions for decent ways to stop a muscle cramping?
In the last year my right hamstring seems to start to cramp at even the slightest provocation. With my upped training of late it's started to do it if I even try to raise my heel much.
Should I just regularly stretch it (doesn't seem to be helping so far), or is there something else I can try? -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoPhysio? -
sport 17,064 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDeep tissue massage. Like really deep. Get it oiled up and nicely warmed up.
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simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years agoYoga? -
Decks 31,014 posts
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Registered 6 years agoYeah definitely yoga. I get loads of issues with my hamstring and doing this regularly has helped massively. Also sugar puffs for breakfast.
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Lukus 24,640 posts
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Registered 17 years agoPlus more potassium in your diet or as a supplement and give magnesium spray a try if you haven't already. Those two things plus ten minutes of morning yoga have helped my back and neck muscles enormously over the last year. -
Nothing wrong with a few cramps every once in a while as long as it’s still in your excruciating pain goal limit.
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