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The Rugby World Cup 2007 Thread • Page 19
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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'Try' is the correct term, and that's still a little sore point!
There officially wasn't one, although the jury is still out as to whether the official made the right decision or not. -
Dragul 5,536 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThanks for the teaching! 
Really?! What happens of the jury finds the the official made a bad decision?
I only see the world cup and the 7 nations cup! -
Nah nothing happens like that.
You couldn't even say categorically that he made the wrong decision. The ref had a shocker though (again not in a biased way, just completely incompetent and missed loads of stuff and didn't really control the game well which did have a bearing on the fluidity of the match) but he's not the one that makes the decision on whether to award the try or not.
Although I'm sure I heard that the bloke who did was an Aussie....hmmmm! ;o) -
Dragul 5,536 posts
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Registered 17 years agoLOL
So Football controversy arrived on Rugby! LOL -
Usually I like Rugby officials; I like the way they control the game, the way they converse with the players and the amount of respect that is shown on both sides (ref to the player and back again).
Tonight I just thought the official lost the plot a bit in the second half and wasn't consistent with his decisions and also got a bit arrogant towards the end when he was conversing with players.
Still no biggie, they thoroughly deserved it and it would be unfair to suggest otherwise as they didn't make the decision and they made the most of their chances. -
SuperCoolEskimo 11,892 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI was as angry as the next Englishman after the try wasn't given but having seen the replay a few more times, Cueto's foot did touch the line just before it went up off the floor. Great call by the video ref, although there were a few bad decisions on the pitch by the ref which went against us and could have led to points.
Having said that, I have no complaints about the defeat. SA have been the best team throughout the tournament and they did really well to control the game tonight. Heart and courage can get you so far, but in the end superior ability will always prevail. -
The co-commentator sounded like he was about to throw a hissyfit in the last 15 minutes! -
FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWell done lads (England). Very few times in my life I will say this, but they did us proud. Infinitely more so than our fucking footie team. -
Merlinho 5,908 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI feel that the right team won. SA set out their tactics from the start, it was however the most boring World Cup final that I've ever seen (note to bandwagon jumpers: that includes other teams except England!)
Also in agreement that it was not a try. Cueto's foot seemed to just brush the line before it was in the air. Mere blades of grass in it mind, but the referee must give the benefit of the doubt to the defending team in these circumstances. -
A final with no tries? :/ -
Merlinho wrote:
I feel that the right team won. SA set out their tactics from the start, it was however the most boring World Cup final that I've ever seen (note to bandwagon jumpers: that includes other teams except England!)
Also in agreement that it was not a try. Cueto's foot seemed to just brush the line before it was in the air. Mere blades of grass in it mind, but the referee must give the benefit of the doubt to the defending team in these circumstances.
I thought it was the attacking team that should have got the benefit of the doubt (not just in this instance, more as a general rule). Have I misunderstood that rule? If so he made the right decision. If not then he made the wrong one.
Like I said last night, it wasn't clear at all, but my view on it being the wrong decision was because I thought the rule was 'advantage to the attacking team'. I'm happy to stand corrected though. -
Merlinho 5,908 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWell if there is doubt as who grounded the ball, there is no try and a 5 yard scrum.
This is a different circumstance where really there is no advantage either way written into the rules. The decision must just be spot on. -
Seems strange to not have a definite 'advantage to...' in the rules. Perhaps something they should look at, as then there isn't any argument at all; it would just be a standard response of 'I wasn't entirely certain so I gave the advantage'. -
Merlinho 5,908 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWell according to the rules, you're either in touch or not. To be fair, in this circumstance, the TMO took his time and got it spot on. -
Lutz 48,870 posts
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Registered 18 years agoGotta say, at the time through 6 bottles of beer I thought hit foot came up before crossing the line in the air, but now I have to say I think his foot was *just* on the line before it moved upwards.
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Genji 19,682 posts
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Registered 17 years agoFWB wrote:
Or your cricket team.
Well done lads (England). Very few times in my life I will say this, but they did us proud. Infinitely more so than our fucking footie team. -
spindizzy 7,755 posts
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Registered 17 years agoLutz wrote:
Gotta say, at the time through 6 bottles of beer I thought hit foot came up before crossing the line in the air, but now I have to say I think his foot was *just* on the line before it moved upwards.
Yep, me too. Looking at it today I reckon the video ref made the right decision.
Awesome match - sorry not to win of course, but the team did us proud. -
neil74 2,341 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWas convinced it was a try on the night but after seeing it again on Sunday the TMO got it right, shame but rules are rules.
I was worried it was a game too far, lets not forget that this is a team that has over-achieved. I was actually surprised that SA changed their tactics (presumably) to accommodate us when on paper they surely did not need to? I've not seen the stats but on the night I thought we edged possession and territory but in truth apart from that moment never really looked like winning, 6 points at half time was too much imo. Shame but what a ride.
I know there is a lot of talk about changing some rules but even though we lost I take more fond memories from this than from 4 years ago, I thought there were some cracking games (even the 3rd place play off was a exciting I thought) and for me the whole tactical aspect is fun to watch and drop goals do not happen by accident. I heard a good idea yesterday which was to make it more of a risk and to take the play back to where it was kicked from if they missed. -
King_Cnut 615 posts
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Registered 16 years agoCongrats to SA. Deserved it on the night I suppose. Shame about the "try" though. I've seen them given.
Looking forward to the 6 Nations now! -
swede 583 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWhat a great world cup, as an Englishman I feel that South Africa played exceptionally well and deserved the win on the night (just .gif)
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Regardless of what others (New Zealanders?) feel, I feel that the best two sides faced each other on Saturday. And by that I dont necessarily mean 'The best 2 teams in the world', but the 2 teams that were cerainly 'in the zone' for the knockout stages of the world cup.
It was also a great tournament for the emerging nations, the highlight of course being Argentina who really could have gone all the way I feel, and must be recognised as one of the best sides in the world now, and brought into one of the major yearly tournaments. But lets not forget Fiji, and Tonga for some amazing rugby also.
Players of the tournament:
Habana - (RSA)
Sheridan - (England) (special mention for this guy as he played every match at 110%)
Contepomi - (Argentina)
Longo - (Argentina)
Robinson - (England)
Matfield - (RSA)
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neil74 2,341 posts
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Registered 15 years agoswede wrote:
What a great world cup, as an Englishman I feel that South Africa played exceptionally well and deserved the win on the night (just )
Regardless of what others (New Zealanders?) feel, I feel that the best two sides faced each other on Saturday. And by that I dont necessarily mean 'The best 2 teams in the world', but the 2 teams that were cerainly 'in the zone' for the knockout stages of the world cup.
It was also a great tournament for the emerging nations, the highlight of course being Argentina who really could have gone all the way I feel, and must be recognised as one of the best sides in the world now, and brought into one of the major yearly tournaments. But lets not forget Fiji, and Tonga for some amazing rugby also.
Players of the tournament:
Habana - (RSA)
Sheridan - (England) (special mention for this guy as he played every match at 110%)
Contepomi - (Argentina)
Longo - (Argentina)
Robinson - (England)
Matfield - (RSA)
Hernandez - (Argentina)
I'd add Andy Gomersall to that list.
I also thought Fiji were great and don't forget those 2 almost tries at 20-20 against SA, could have been very different. -
elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoCheating Saracens scum relegated for persistent over spending on salaries, good riddance but I don’t think it’s enough. It’s just as bad as doping imo -
Trusty search function found this one over the 2019 thread? 😅
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