Blade Runner "Final Cut" • Page 6
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HoriZon 14,351 posts
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Registered 19 years agoJust watched this version on Blu-ray and how i loved it i noticed a lot of the changes some were really needed others not sure why .gif)
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sirtacos 8,279 posts
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Registered 14 years agoWhat sort of changes?
I have to get this on Blu-ray -
HoriZon 14,351 posts
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Registered 19 years agoSmall stuff a lot of it:
The Final Cut contains the following differences (in order of appearance) from the 1992 Director's Cut:
The color timing has been noticeably altered to give the film a more greenish tint.
The fireballs in the opening refinery shot are correctly synchronized with the associated light play on the smokestacks. Some of these had been off-sync in earlier versions.
The shot of Deckard waiting to eat at the White Dragon has been shortened, its editing reminiscent of the workprint version of the shot. This was done due to the removal of the voiceover.
Smoke has been added behind the cook when he serves Deckard.
The cables lifting Gaff's police spinner are no longer plainly visible. Cables were also removed from another shot of a spinner late in the film, just before Deckard enters Sebastian's apartment building.
In addition to English the voices on police radio during Gaff's and Deckard's flight to the police headquarters can be heard speaking German, Japanese and Swedish.
As Deckard enters Bryant's office, Bryant's statement "I've got four skinjobs walking the streets" is no longer obviously a spliced-in re-recording.
Bryant's line "One of them got fried running through an electrical field" is changed to "Two of them..." to remove the numerical inconsistency later on.
Bryant adds a new line about Leon being able to "lift 400 pound atomic loads all day and night". This is from the workprint.
When Gaff and Deckard first appear at Leon's apartment, the landlord now says "Kowalski", another small bit originally from the workprint.
A background behind Batty when he is first introduced speaking to Leon has been changed. As the shot was taken from a later scene, this has now been corrected to appear as if Batty is actually in the phone booth as Leon finds him.
The sequence at the fish booth is longer showing Deckard leaving.
Deckard's conversation with the snake merchant Abdul Ben Hassan has been altered so that the dialogue is no longer out of sync; Ford's son, Ben, lip-synched the spoken dialog and his mouth was digitally placed over his father's.
A shot of the busy crowds in the streets was restored. Immediately after that, a shot of two strippers wearing hockey goalie masks was restored. Finally, there's a shot of Deckard talking to another police officer just prior to Deckard entering the Snake Pit. These three shots had previously appeared in slightly different form in the workprint version.
The original full-length version of the unicorn dream has been restored. This is a much different version than the one that appeared in the Director's Cut, and has never been in any version seen by the public prior to this one. Deckard is shown to be awake; previously he was asleep or nearly asleep.
During Deckard's pursuit of Zhora, Joanna Cassidy's face has been digitally superimposed over that of the stunt double, Lee Pulford. This scene was re-filmed specifically for the Final Cut. Although great effort had been undertaken to replace the stunt double face with Cassidy's, the tan-colored protective suit Pulford wore to protect against glass cuts is still visible.
A scar on Deckard's face after his "retirement" of Zhora has been removed. Originally, the scene in which Deckard meets Bryant after retiring Zhora was to take place after his encounter with Leon, explaining the scar. This was done prior to the removal of the "sixth replicant," creating a continuity error. Due to the re-ordering, the scar was always present before Deckard had actually gotten it.
When Batty confronts Tyrell, he says, "I want more life, father" from the workprint version, an alternate take intended for but never used in television broadcasts of the film, as opposed to the original line "I want more life, fucker." The line also has a noticeably deeper tonal quality than the previous versions.
After killing Tyrell, Batty says "I'm sorry Sebastian. Come. Come," when in the original he merely approached the frightened Sebastian. This is also from the workprint.
All the violent scenes in the International Cut that were deleted in the U.S. theatrical release and Director's Cut including Tyrell's death, the confrontation between Deckard and Pris and the nail through Batty's bleeding hand are restored to the Final Cut.
After Batty releases the dove, it now flies up into a dark rainy sky instead of a blue sky. -
sharpkiddie 474 posts
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Registered 19 years agoSaw this on Sat night at the BFI (it was Blade Runner day), and Rutger Hauer did a brilliant, if bonkers, Q&A after the film! It was chaired by a chap called Paul Salmon who'd written a book called Future Noir all about the film, however was a terrible interviewer and kept interrupting to talk about himself!
Not my photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlielazar/3375600272/
Although generally cynical about the absurd amount of rumour and anecdote on the internet concerning the film, Hauer did say something to the effect of 'Everyone on the poster is a replicant'...
HoriZon wrote:
The color timing has been noticeably altered to give the film a more greenish tint.
Some other man who introduced the film made a specific point about the color timing being as originally intended, suggesting that they had undone corrections made for the first release.
Anyway, the sort of film you really wanna see on the big screen. -
sharpkiddie wrote:
Saw this on Sat night at the BFI (it was Blade Runner day), and Rutger Hauer did a brilliant, if bonkers, Q&A after the film! It was chaired by a chap called Paul Salmon who'd written a book called Future Noir all about the film, however was a terrible interviewer and kept interrupting to talk about himself!
I was there as well, but sadly only for the documentary and panel discussion as I failed to get tickets for the screening of the film and the Ridley Scott interview. Paul Salmon was pretty rude, he kept hijacking questions aimed at other people on the panel and going off on his own tangents, then asking for more questions before anyone else could answer. He knows his stuff, admittedly, but they should have had someone neutral up there moderating the panel instead of leaving it to him. -
I love Blade Runner. If only they'd make something with that level of atmosphere and lack of CGI these days 
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TechnoHippy 19,245 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI have this sitting at home on blu-ray, must get round to watching it. One of my favourite films of all time. -
pistol 13,018 posts
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Registered 19 years agowoodnotes wrote:
I love Blade Runner. If only they'd make something with that level of atmosphere and lack of CGI these days
Not a hope in hell. The movie industry is drastically going down hill imo. Hardly any original ideas. I could watch 10 films and only 1 would really make me sit up and take notice. All the others are usually just very average. -
DFective 2,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWatched this the other night.
Horribly paced. Still liked it though. -
It's not horribly paced, it's slow. That's something entirely different! -
DFective 2,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoUncleLou wrote:
It's not horribly paced, it's slow. That's something entirely different!
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silentbob 29,527 posts
Seen 1 year ago
Registered 19 years agoDFective wrote:
UncleLou wrote:
It's not horribly paced, it's slow. That's something entirely different!
Wrong/Right -
DFective wrote:
UncleLou wrote:
It's not horribly paced, it's slow. That's something entirely different!
Potato/Tomato
Apple/Orange, more like. -
silentbob 29,527 posts
Seen 1 year ago
Registered 19 years agopistol wrote:
That's no different to any other time in Cinema's history. Certainly not for the last 20 years at any rate.
woodnotes wrote:
I love Blade Runner. If only they'd make something with that level of atmosphere and lack of CGI these days
Not a hope in hell. The movie industry is drastically going down hill imo. Hardly any original ideas. I could watch 10 films and only 1 would really make me sit up and take notice. All the others are usually just very average.
There's no shortage of originality, you've been looking in the wrong place
/Sala
"I am the mon-arch of the seas. I am the ruler of the c .."
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pistol 13,018 posts
Seen 8 years ago
Registered 19 years agosilentbob wrote:
pistol wrote:
That's no different to any other time in Cinema's history. Certainly not for the last 20 years at any rate.
woodnotes wrote:
I love Blade Runner. If only they'd make something with that level of atmosphere and lack of CGI these days
Not a hope in hell. The movie industry is drastically going down hill imo. Hardly any original ideas. I could watch 10 films and only 1 would really make me sit up and take notice. All the others are usually just very average.
There's no shortage of originality, you've been looking in the wrong place
/Sala
"I am the mon-arch of the seas. I am the ruler of the c .."
Sala/
Perhaps you're right, although I do try and watch a broad selection of films. Due to watch Taken tomorrow and heard pretty good things about that. -
Pac-man-ate-my-wife 7,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agopistol wrote:
Perhaps you're right, although I do try and watch a broad selection of films. Due to watch Taken tomorrow and heard pretty good things about that.
Taken isn't a broad selection. It's just a incredibly average Hollywood thriller!
Go and watch The Age Of Stupid or Il Divo which are out now or The Damned United or Genova out Friday.
Not all brilliant but all refreshing interesting.
DFective wrote:
UncleLou wrote:
It's not horribly paced, it's slow. That's something entirely different!
Potato/Tomato
Wellmadefilmwithbrilliantpacing/Attentiondeficitdisorder
Have to say that I don't find the film slow in the slightest. It's not non-stop action but the plot is always the driving force of the film and I find it gripping. -
pistol 13,018 posts
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Registered 19 years agoAlso watching Benjamin Button. Is that any good?
Seems to get pretty good reviews. -
DFective 2,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agopistol wrote:
Also watching Benjamin Button. Is that any good?
Seems to get pretty good reviews.
Best movie I've seen this year. Saw it twice, in fact. -
Charlie_Miso 1,190 posts
Seen 2 years ago
Registered 14 years agoRented the BR over the weekend. Still a great movie and I did love the 3hr making of doco.
However, as my first viewing after finally getting around to reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sleep I found some of Sebastians dialogue strangely out of place for the movie, like it was left over from an earlier script which was more true to the source material.
Specifically talking about how he had to create friends and how he lived alone, as there was so much space. Implying a deserted post World War Terminus earth, not an overcrowded 2019 LA.
I was drunk though. -
Scimarad 9,964 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 18 years agoI'm not so sure it is crowded. Certain areas seem really crowded but if you look at the insane size of the city and the buildings and take into account how empty Sebastien's home is, you might find a lot of LA is pretty empty. And they are always going on about the colonies. -
Charlie_Miso wrote:
Specifically talking about how he had to create friends and how he lived alone, as there was so much space. Implying a deserted post World War Terminus earth, not an overcrowded 2019 LA.
The fact that he makes friends suggested to me that he just wasn't a people person, that he struggled to form meaningful relationships with other humans. It also partly explains why he's so quick to help the Replicants.
Also, I don't see anything contradictory about a place being both overcrowded and still having buildings that are largely deserted - sounds pretty much like any big city to me. -
Charlie_Miso 1,190 posts
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Registered 14 years agoInteresting, I was always of the opinion that Blade Runner was set is a crazy over-populated city/world, and that was the reason there were colonies. A matter of necessity to ease the pressure back on Earth. -
Charlie_Miso wrote:
Interesting, I was always of the opinion that Blade Runner was set is a crazy over-populated city/world, and that was the reason there were colonies. A matter of necessity to ease the pressure back on Earth.
Sure, and it still may well be - but in any overpopulated area you still get other areas that are deserted - it's possible that Sebastian just owns the entire Bradbury building and refuses to let anybody else live there. Or maybe the Bradbury is just so run down that he's inhabiting the only liveable area within it. -
Charlie_Miso wrote:
Interesting, I was always of the opinion that Blade Runner was set is a crazy over-populated city/world, and that was the reason there were colonies. A matter of necessity to ease the pressure back on Earth.
i'm of the opinion that LA was a crazy over-populated place but the colonies have lead to a lot of people leaving and only those without the means to get to the colonies are left, it definitely had a desolate feel to it at times -
HoriZon wrote:
When Batty confronts Tyrell, he says, "I want more life, father" from the workprint version, an alternate take intended for but never used in television broadcasts of the film, as opposed to the original line "I want more life, fucker." The line also has a noticeably deeper tonal quality than the previous versions.
All the violent scenes in the International Cut that were deleted in the U.S. theatrical release and Director's Cut including Tyrell's death, the confrontation between Deckard and Pris and the nail through Batty's bleeding hand are restored to the Final Cut.
After Batty releases the dove, it now flies up into a dark rainy sky instead of a blue sky.
I know it's an old post, but those three changes annoyed me about the final cut; which is a shame as it's mainly a big improvement. In terms of the gore, it's the killing of Tyrell in particular which is too 'video nasty' and was better off-screen.
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