To Elite or not to Elite, that is the Falcon Page 3

  • splin 9 Sep 2007 16:40:46 4 posts
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    Get the elite, man. Just make sure it's a EURO august release, and not a USA import. Cause EURO Elites have the Falcon processor (65Nm), it's a fact.

    I've played bioshock all friggin' day without any brakes, and the Xbox works just fine.
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 16:42:43 70,652 posts
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    splin wrote:
    Get the elite, man. Just make sure it's a EURO august release, and not a USA import. Cause EURO Elites have the Falcon processor (65Nm), it's a fact.
    No, it's not.
  • TwistidChimp 9 Sep 2007 16:48:50 8,825 posts
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    splin wrote:
    I've played bioshock all friggin' day without any brakes

    Risky business that.

    /crashes 360 into ditch.
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 16:57:29 70,652 posts
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    lol. That should be expected, not celebrated.
    It's not a particularly big issue. Stole my nephew's old premium to play bioshock over 3 days doing about 12 hours a day.

    Didn't explode or anything. ;)
  • splin 9 Sep 2007 19:43:57 4 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    splin wrote:
    Get the elite, man. Just make sure it's a EURO august release, and not a USA import. Cause EURO Elites have the Falcon processor (65Nm), it's a fact.
    No, it's not.
    Yes it is. Period. Research xbox.com forums for proof. August console has been cracked open just to see what processor it had, and it has 65nm. GG.
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 19:58:59 70,652 posts
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    splin wrote:
    Yes it is. Period. Research xbox.com forums for proof. August console has been cracked open just to see what processor it had, and it has 65nm. GG.
    Link, or it didn't happen.

    (Because I was the person that originally linked that the 65nm was going to be here for Europe launch stuff and it turned out to be utter crap when the usual suspects had a look at the machines)
  • morriss 9 Sep 2007 19:59:40 71,293 posts
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    Linkz plz
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 20:10:35 70,652 posts
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    WOPR wrote:
    Heh, I bet it was 65mm.

    =D
  • morriss 9 Sep 2007 20:19:20 71,293 posts
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    http://forums.xbox.com/68/13882627/ShowPost.aspx#13882627
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 20:22:01 70,652 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    http://forums.xbox.com/68/13882627/ShowPost.aspx#13882627
    Yeah, that was the thread where they changed their mind half way about the 360 getting 65nm yet.
  • Deleted user 9 September 2007 20:25:36
    My Euro Elite does not have a 65nm processor.

    Period. Fact. GG. Etc.
  • morriss 9 Sep 2007 21:03:46 71,293 posts
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    The last page says they all have, not that I believe a word of it.
  • jimmyjimbob 9 Sep 2007 21:15:07 313 posts
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    Haven't seen anything on xbox-scene or the usual tech news sites that reports of the 65nm versions in the wild yet.

    By the look of things they're in production, but it takes awhile to get from the assembly line to the final boxed product. Give it two months or so and they'll probably be common-place
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 21:17:03 70,652 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    The last page says they all have, not that I believe a word of it.
    The page you linked says they all have the new heatsink, not the new CPU.
  • Foregone-Reality 9 Sep 2007 21:22:30 2,216 posts
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    WOPR wrote:
    What a mess. I think I'll wait until PGR 4 is out and see what the situation is like then.

    mmmm.

    Whopper..
  • Foregone-Reality 9 Sep 2007 21:22:52 2,216 posts
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    Yes. I am being very productive this evening. :)
  • Foregone-Reality 9 Sep 2007 21:30:34 2,216 posts
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    WOPR wrote:

    Nope.

    :/
  • morriss 9 Sep 2007 21:38:24 71,293 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    morriss wrote:
    The last page says they all have, not that I believe a word of it.
    The page you linked says they all have the new heatsink, not the new CPU.
    Oh right. I mix the 2 up all the time.
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 21:43:49 70,652 posts
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    WOPR wrote:
    Foregone Reality wrote:
    WOPR wrote:
    What a mess. I think I'll wait until PGR 4 is out and see what the situation is like then.

    mmmm.

    Whopper..
    Nope.
    Would you like to play a game? =)
  • silentbob 9 Sep 2007 21:45:38 29,527 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Would you like to play a game? =)
    I can absolutely guarantee you that he's never heard that one before.
  • Psychotext 9 Sep 2007 21:50:20 70,652 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    Would you like to play a game? =)
    I can absolutely guarantee you that he's never heard that one before.
    It was for Forgone Reality.
  • Gethsemane 10 Sep 2007 04:13:13 4 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    Ok? I'm sure Manny Garcia said they were all Ben Q.

    Weird.

    sadly not, m/s are still churning out the loud as hell dvd-drives even with the new elite, getting the quieter ben-q drive is a pure lottery chance.

    personnally im going to wait till both the new cpu and quieter drives are common place before upgrading to elite. fingers crossed my launch date xbox keeps working (mind you theres that 3year warranty now :-P)
  • silentbob 10 Sep 2007 07:29:36 29,527 posts
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    WOPR wrote:
    silentbob wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    Would you like to play a game? =)
    I can absolutely guarantee you that he's never heard that one before.
    Do you remember that classic line from some tard in the comments who I'd upset?

    "Get back to McDonalds!"

    LOL!!
    :D
  • morriss 10 Sep 2007 07:52:59 71,293 posts
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    2010
  • dunny 10 Sep 2007 09:29:22 602 posts
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    I'm on the cusp of finally getting a 360 (got a HDTV earlier this month, plus my birthday is coming up) and now am *almost* certain that I'll get an Elite.

    I was always going to get a Premium and use a VGA or Component cable to connect it to the TV, but that bumps the price up to 270 so I got thinking that for an extra 30 quid I might as well get the elite. Plus the Elite has HDMI, and I don’t know about anyone else but I have read lots of forums and I am still absolutely completely confused as to which is better- VGA or component cables- with a HDTV. And so another bonus is that having HDMI included negates that decision.

    One thing that really puts me off both is the loudness of the 360 and the reliability. though. Not experienced the noise first hand but it does sound quite off-putting. So much so that in the past week I have actually considered (please don’t flame me here!) of getting a PS3. My rationale being that it is an internet-ready (included wireless and no annual service charge), quiet, reliable machine. Now of course I know that there are no way near as many great games but I barely have time for more than a few hours of gaming a week so the PS3 catalogue might just suffice.

    Darn, reading this back has just confirmed that I really haven’t made my mind up after all.

    The gaming side of me is yearning to play the likes of bioshock and halo 3 but the sensible/geeky side of me wants an all-inclusive reliable package.

    Argh the confusion of the consumer! Still, I am in a very fortunate position to be able to choose one at all so really can’t complain. Decisions decisions...
  • HarryPalmer 10 Sep 2007 09:31:15 6,357 posts
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    i got mine for £250 online, still havnt actually got it yet though : (
  • Deleted user 10 September 2007 09:31:41
    dunny wrote:
    I'm on the cusp of finally getting a 360 (got a HDTV earlier this month, plus my birthday is coming up) and now am *almost* certain that I'll get an Elite.

    I was always going to get a Premium and use a VGA or Component cable to connect it to the TV, but that bumps the price up to 270 so I got thinking that for an extra 30 quid I might as well get the elite. Plus the Elite has HDMI, and I don’t know about anyone else but I have read lots of forums and I am still absolutely completely confused as to which is better- VGA or component cables- with a HDTV. And so another bonus is that having HDMI included negates that decision.

    One thing that really puts me off both is the loudness of the 360 and the reliability. though. Not experienced the noise first hand but it does sound quite off-putting. So much so that in the past week I have actually considered (please don’t flame me here!) of getting a PS3. My rationale being that it is an internet-ready (included wireless and no annual service charge), quiet, reliable machine. Now of course I know that there are no way near as many great games but I barely have time for more than a few hours of gaming a week so the PS3 catalogue might just suffice.

    Darn, reading this back has just confirmed that I really haven’t made my mind up after all.

    The gaming side of me is yearning to play the likes of bioshock and halo 3 but the sensible/geeky side of me wants an all-inclusive reliable package.

    Argh the confusion of the consumer! Still, I am in a very fortunate position to be able to choose one at all so really can’t complain. Decisions decisions...

    If you want to play the games you're going to have to put up with noisy and unreliable hardware.
  • sanctusmortis 10 Sep 2007 09:41:58 9,914 posts
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    The sound is honestly not that bad - if you've played PC games that cache off a disc, you'll be pretty used to it already.

    I thought the Premium was only £250 now? The only real difference is the bigger HDD and different colour (as Premiums will be going HDMI soon, too).
  • dunny 10 Sep 2007 09:54:38 602 posts
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    Yes, it's 250 but add a VGA or component cable and that brings it to 270. HDMI cable is bundled free with the Elite.

    In my heart of hearts i know i'll be ultimately disappointed if i don't get a 360 (i'm buying something to play great games after all, not to be quiet!) so think i'll take the plunge and get an elite (cable confusion with the premium has driven me towards this!) tomorrow.
  • splin 10 Sep 2007 11:22:15 4 posts
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    MMk, i'll find the link when i get home, and I'm sure of it that it has falcon processor. It's a far more smaller and thinner processor, there is also a huge difference between °.
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