The cycling thread Page 526

  • Frogofdoom 19 May 2018 11:29:07 10,150 posts
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    @GoatApocalypse I had the same trouble. Getting a split saddle and proper shorts helped quite a lot and i should have done it sooner as it left me with some nerve damage.
  • thelzdking 19 May 2018 17:56:43 8,561 posts
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    V brakes are fucking cunts.
  • thelzdking 19 May 2018 18:31:04 8,561 posts
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    In fact the whole shitty Carrera bike is a cunt. Spent hours trying to get the gears to shift properly and it still skips twentieth gear and doesn't downshift properly. I don't know if it's me or just a symptom of a shitty bike
  • mothercruncher 26 May 2018 08:10:38 15,256 posts
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    Interesting, and mildly worrying at times:

  • elstoof 26 May 2018 08:34:54 21,392 posts
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    Interesting. Kind of confirmed what Iíve come to think about any future bikes I buy, which is basically being done with carbon monocoque. Tube to tube is where Iím at now, I donít care too much about the sharp edge of technology, I just want something crafted to the highest finish possible
  • MikeP 30 May 2018 15:21:43 2,888 posts
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    There are compromises with all composite construction techniques.

    Tube to tube with lugs is very good, provided the joint design is sound, because the size of the lugs mean that the inside can be inspected easily, and the tubes themselves are a straightforward construction. It's a plug and socket, so you can get really good adhesion due to the surface area. That's how Colnago C60s are made.

    As you can see from the vid, monocoque structures can have a range of issues

    Mitred joint-to-joint carbon, where the joint is wrapped with additional layers of carbon can be a very problematic construction, as you have an edge that's subject to movement and then cracking, unless you make the joint very overbuilt.

    I learnt all this from a composites engineer who builds carbon fibre/composite racing yachts. He knew a lot about soot & glue.

    Edited by MikeP at 15:24:56 30-05-2018
  • MikeP 30 May 2018 17:11:32 2,888 posts
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    Also, I'm so hacked off with the delays to getting my Rourke back that I'm buying a very lightly used dirtbag Kinesis Aithein frameset as a backup. Just in case the effing thing doesn't arrive in good time for my holiday.
  • Psychotext 1 Jun 2018 22:49:55 63,810 posts
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    When are you heading out? How's the training going?
  • MikeP 4 Jun 2018 16:17:06 2,888 posts
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    Early July. Training is going well so far, building up the efforts and also trying to make sure I don't overdo it and injure myself. Doing stretching & some weights alongside the pure cardio stuff.

    Built up the Kinesis on the weekend, and it's pretty nice. A bit of a dragster, the front end is 15mm lower than the Rourke, but not too crazy.

    Running a 52/36 upfront and a 11-32 on the back. Means I can climb pretty steep stuff while keeping a nice cadence.

    All-up ( with pedals & cages) weight is dead on 8Kg, which is pretty respectable for a non-carbon bike. It's pretty stiff too. The frame doesn't spring like steel, you just push the pedals harder and you go faster, without the dynamics of the frame getting involved.
  • Psychotext 7 Jun 2018 21:29:06 63,810 posts
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    Nice. Should be a good trip. :D

    Unrelated, this is fascinating, if a bit complex: https://cyclingtips.com/2018/06/inscyd-view-a-scientific-analysis-of-chris-froomes-giro-ditalia-performance/

    (Analysis of Froome's Giro performance)
  • askew 7 Jun 2018 21:31:37 17,496 posts
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    Caught some of the Criterium coverage on ITV4 last night: presume itís on again this evening.
  • grey_matters 7 Jun 2018 21:45:00 4,416 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Nice. Should be a good trip. :D

    Unrelated, this is fascinating, if a bit complex: https://cyclingtips.com/2018/06/inscyd-view-a-scientific-analysis-of-chris-froomes-giro-ditalia-performance/

    (Analysis of Froome's Giro performance)
    Thanks for the link Psychotext!

    I've just skimread it so far but I'm so completely negatively biased against Froome that the day will never dawn that I don't think he has cheated. I just wanted to say that before reading it properly so that anyone can dismiss any of my potential future whingeing easily and continue to feel good about pro cycling and, if it is important, themselves.
  • mothercruncher 7 Jun 2018 21:54:50 15,256 posts
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    Nah- theyíre still cheating. Not at Armstrong levels, but little bits here and there, training where itís hard to be tested and micro-dosing etc. Cyclingís cleaner than it ever was but definitely still not clean as far as I can see.
  • elstoof 7 Jun 2018 22:05:14 21,392 posts
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    None of them are clean
  • Psychotext 8 Jun 2018 21:37:39 63,810 posts
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    Posting this because Mike was a legend in my particular small niche of the cycling world, and he'll be sadly missed: http://www.bikepacking.com/plog/in-memoriam-mike-hall/
  • elstoof 9 Jun 2018 09:04:06 21,392 posts
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    Lovely tribute
  • Psychotext 12 Jun 2018 19:41:52 63,810 posts
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    So I'm heading off to the Dolomites in Italy tomorrow. Ride is only 53 miles (86km) long, but has 13,000ft (4000m) of climbing. That's more climbing than Leadville 100, but in half the distance.

    I really don't know if I'm going to be able to get through it as my gearing is way too high for the course. I'm going to end up walking a lot, I just hope I can keep going / get in under the cut offs.
  • gamecat 12 Jun 2018 20:30:04 795 posts
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    Wow that event looks pretty brutal, looks to be most of the climbing is in the first half though, so you should be set if you can make it there in some sort of shape. Cutoffs seem pretty generous anyway, I'm sure you'll make it even if you walk some of the silly steep stuff.
  • Psychotext 12 Jun 2018 21:04:40 63,810 posts
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    I'm hoping to find someone fatter than me to tag along with and hopefully do a sensible pace.
  • challenge_hanukkah 12 Jun 2018 21:17:25 8,048 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    I'm hoping to find someone fatter than me to tag along with and hopefully do a sensible pace.
    How fat are we talking?

    I've started to struggle seeing feet when I look straight down.
  • Psychotext 12 Jun 2018 22:28:16 63,810 posts
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    I put on one of my race weight jerseys earlier and if you didn't know I was male, you'd have said I was pregnant. lol

    :(
  • MikeP 13 Jun 2018 15:59:01 2,888 posts
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    Good luck with it, PT. As I'm not riding with you, you'll probably not break any ribs :D

    The Dolomites are where I'm headed in a few weeks. I think we're doing around 3,500 - 4,000m of climbing a day, but it's on road and over longer distances. Small mercies, etc.
  • Psychotext 14 Jun 2018 15:16:42 63,810 posts
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    Ugh, I did one of the climbs from the route. I'm horribly unfit.

    Saturday is going to be one of my most painful days in the saddle.
  • mothercruncher 15 Jun 2018 08:07:25 15,256 posts
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    Does anyone know a reliable way to work out maximum heart rate?
    I've a year or so of data, since I started bothering to track it with a watch, but not sure what to make of it.
    Obviously there's a sizeable lag between heart rate and effort, but still- I've a ride on the 1st of May this year that topped out at 207... but I don't remember being that hard. And a ride from a couple of weeks ago on my fave climb that was jesus-h-christ-am-I-having-a-heart-attack hard and was 167. Generally hard rides seem to top out in the early to mid 190's.
    And.... I'm clueless.
  • gamecat 15 Jun 2018 11:17:32 795 posts
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    Max HR would generally be after a short to medium hard sustained effort, then sprinting at the end. Best way would be a turbo trainer as you can properly empty the tank without worrying about staying upright or getting home after. Mine was 185 at the end of my last FTP test which was about right, warmup then giving everything for 18 mins then going full gas till I started seeing spots before my eyes at the end, no fun really. Without a turbo your best bet is to find a long gradual climb at sprint over the top.
  • elstoof 15 Jun 2018 12:23:26 21,392 posts
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    Go to a rough part of town, insult some gangsters and see what your HRM reads after they put a gun to your head
  • mothercruncher 15 Jun 2018 13:13:04 15,256 posts
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    It's hard to ride where I am without climbing and I particularly enjoy it so I've a fair number to refer to but the 167, for example, was a hard 20 minute off road climb at as much pace as I could muster chasing Strava glory. I suspect I was actually one notch down from maximum though, as it was quite technical.
    Got a turbo, will think on.
  • elstoof 15 Jun 2018 13:26:50 21,392 posts
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    Iíve hit some wonderful max HRs on the turbo, I suspect the heat changes things. Been as high as 202 indoors, while out running - vomit inducing efforts - I never seem to go passed 170 odd
  • elstoof 15 Jun 2018 13:30:15 21,392 posts
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    Although today I got up to 181, 2 minutes max effort run up a ~13% climb which I thought might kill me
  • gamecat 15 Jun 2018 14:18:08 795 posts
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    Yea you need decent cooling indoors, a proper industrial fan really, that high hr could be just overheating.
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